Strategy 3 - Deploy Lake Macquarie Council charging infrastructure

7 months ago
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To ensure we make the most of our large operational footprint, we will deploy appropriate charging infrastructure at key Council sites across Lake Macquarie City. This will support the transition of our own fleet and ensure a core network of chargers accessible to the public.

Do you support this Strategy and the Actions that underpin it?

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  • Jesterhat 8 months ago
    I agree with Castaway, there are several locations that can be targeted for Lvl 2 chargers. Partnering with large business such as Charlestown Square, where people can park and charge for hours makes sense. Also, partnering with the various golf course in Lake Macq would be a win-win for drivers, council and the clubs themselves. Golf is a game that takes hours, so Level 2 chargers that are most efficient for hours-long charging would be sensible for these locations. Also, it may encourage more people who drive EVs to visit the clubs for refreshments or meals when needing a charge, potentially encouraging better membership levels as well.
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    • neil 8 months ago
      You shouldn’t need charging stations at these places as the only thing EVs are good for is the local humdrum trips, it all falls down when you want to head off on a road trip. And of course we could have a law that allows some leniency if you take in a little to much alcohol if you were waiting for your car to charge.
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      • mbarwell 7 months ago
        Your lack of knowledge is astounding. I've done a 4,500km, 3 day trip in an EV. (Having fun flaming this survey are you?).
  • Castaway 8 months ago
    Very supportive of this initiative. Please be sure to implement level 3 charging stations. Level 2 stations are really only useful for locations where users will park for extended periods. i.e. at place of employment. Having recently used level 3 chargers throughout the Netherlands, they were much better patronised than slower stations. While it is costly, 100kW charging infrastructure is the minimum I think we should be aiming for. My experience using 100kW chargers was that these offer incredible levels of convenience compared to lesser infrastructure. In short, level 2 chargers are not well suited for short-stay locations and will soon be rendered redundant with battery capacities continuing to increase.
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    • neil 8 months ago
      The most relevant word here is “COSTLY “ Buy a diesel.
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      • Jesterhat 8 months ago
        I think any car with a ICE is a step in the wrong direction for the future. The future costs money. It always has.
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        • neil 8 months ago
          At this point EVs can’t compete with ICE cars particularly in Australia.
    • Troy13 8 months ago
      Once more cars come out with 7+kw onboard AC charger's level 2 charger's become more attractive as an hour of shopping can yield 40+ km of driving when starting with a full battery just topping up at level 2's around the council area is sufficient.
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      • neil 8 months ago
        Save all the hassle buy a diesel there’re greener than a EV.
    • Dawn 8 months ago
      Good point Castaway. We should definately be looking at other countries to see what is working & what isnt. Europe is way ahead of us with EVs & their infrastructure. We are falling further behind all the time. But we can turn this to our advantage by learning from their mistakes instead of repeating them.
    • kim.grierson 7 months ago
      I very much agree with castaway. Fast charging is the go and preferrably to have charging stations that cater for all EV types.
  • gmoten 7 months ago
    EVs are better for the environment in many ways. The need to act is now. Supportive action is required by multiple levels of government. I strongly support the council's approach to making something happen. Thank you
  • jonathanwood79 8 months ago
    Fully supportive of this. Priority parking for EVs should be allocated to all Council facilities - beaches, art gallery, libraries, swim centres etc
  • Admin Commented Luke Farr 8 months ago
    Thank you for your interest and comments regarding the draft Strategy. Please remember to address the question at hand and refrain from offering disparaging remarks about other people's view point.
  • algate 8 months ago
    Castaway is correct in almost every respect. Another place where users park for extended periods is at LMCC boat ramps, e.g. Valentine, Croudace Bay. There will be both electric vehicles and electric vessels there.
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    • neil 8 months ago
      Not in our lifetime.
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      • algate 8 months ago
        If you meant there won't be electric boats, well they already exist. However that was not my focus. Many fishers park their cars at boat ramps. Also quite a number of them use their car battery for their boat battery. Some forget to turn off their lights and return to flat batteries.
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        • neil 8 months ago
          Clearly you don’t own a boat. Yes there are electric boats and some enthusiasts have steam boats .Fun but rather impractical for most common usages. Do you have any idea how long it takes to recharge a flat battery.
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          • algate 8 months ago
            I do own a boat. My point which you continually ignore is there are cars at boat ramps that would use rechargers and that this LMCC initiative should consider those locations. And BTW recharging takes 15 minutes, according to Fed Energy Minister Angus Taylor (26/8/2019) - google it.
  • algate 8 months ago
    The fastest vehicle is an EV (Tesla, 1.9secs 0-100kmh). The fastest truck is an EV. They have the same range as fossil fuel vehicles. But all vehicles need refueling - so that's one reason for the Council's initiative. EVs have massively more low-end torque than diesel 4WDs so they are good for towing (boats, caravans, etc). They don't pollute, so they should be encouraged. They don't cost anything for fuel. . . but they need infrastructure. The NRMA recognises this and now LMCC does too. We should all support this initiative.
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    • neil 8 months ago
      Not even Tesla claims 1.9sec 0-100 Yes the most expensive models can get close to the range of a similar size diesel however it then takes between 8 and 24 hours to recharge or 10 minutes to refill a diesel. Sad isn’t it there’re less green than a diesel. So can I get on your free electricity plan. And yes the infrastructure will be gifted by the tooth fairy.
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      • algate 8 months ago
        1. Google "1.9sec 0-100" 2. All my electricity is currently free. In fact my retailer owes me money - get your own plan. 3. The infrastructure is already being provided by the Fed Gov, NRMA, LMCC, etc. Why do you persist with your fake news - [moderator?]
  • Stephen Noel 8 months ago
    EV charge points at Morisset, Toronto Cameron Park and Warners Bay will increase tourism off the M1.
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    • neil 8 months ago
      Yes I can see it now, it’s the first day of the Xmas school holidays and it seems that all of Sydney is heading for the beautiful beaches of northern NSW. There’re all looking forward to a break at Morisset where the local council has provided a $100Ml parking lot with 1000 charging stations. But wait there’s 5000 of them. That’s OK because the council now allows you to sleep in your car for up to 5 nights if you’re waiting to change your car. But when the clever council has finished the $1 billion 5000 bed resort in a couple of years they’ll only have to stay one night before they continue on to the next charging station a whole 200km further north. And its all paid for by those generous local rate payers.
  • neil 8 months ago
    NO
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    • algate 8 months ago
      Neil, get with the true facts. The fastest vehicle on the road is an EV (Tesla, 1.9secs 0-100kmh). The fastest truck on the road is an EV. They have the same range as fossil fuel vehicles. But all vehicles need refueling- that's the point of the Council's initiative. EVs have massively more low-end torque than diesel 4WDs. They don't pollute. They don't cost anything for fuel. . . . And the sun 'always shines', in case you've forgotten your Physics101. Perhaps you are a coal miner? Did you buy one of those VWs with the "fake green" software? Or are you still at primary school?