Area of concern

about 2 months ago
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  • MichelleC about 2 months ago
    I reside in mcewan street and am completely opposed to the track pretty much over the back of my fence. There is a drain that council hardly maintain as to which I phone council and they come to do their maintenance on it 6-8 weeks after placing a call, also this drain breeds rodents and snakes and if the track goes in how will council be able to get access to maintain this ??????? The privacy for all of this street is another question raised, will council pay for all of our fences to reduce the noise and privacy ???????? There is a whole oval why do council choose to be rude and place the path onto our privacy????? Why not place on the other side - where the tree line is and redo the current bridge that is directly there already - it doesn’t make sense, does council enjoy wasting our taxpayers money????
  • NickW about 2 months ago
    The proposed route is very intrusive on the privacy and well being of the local residents. There are several alternative paths which could be taken, which would maintain the privacy and safety of local residents whose yards and houses look upon the proposed track, instead the current proposal is the cheapest way possible to make the track happen. At the cost of Many, Many local residents way of life currently. Move the track to the ocean side of the cricket/soccer pitch, or just bite the bullet and buy some of the treatment plant land, either way WE, as the local residents who will be directly affected, surely have a say in the decision affecting our future, for us, our children and beyond. Our safety should be at the forefront of this decision. Not the Budget.
  • Corinne about 2 months ago
    I live on McEwan st and the proposed track is right on my back fence which will negatively effect my quality of life. I have 2 small children and won't feel as safe if the fence is so close to our back yard. I not happy about the loss of privacy that will incur if the fence so close to my property. Also I am not happy about the loss of security as theives will be encouraged to walk close to our fence line and look in at our property and possessions. I am concerned that this closeness to our property will lower the value of our house. I feel that the proposed location is not considering the happiness of the locals. I welcome the track to run on the other side of the field next to the trees and closer to the lagoon. The existing bridge seems like an easy option to broaden it and this reduce the cost of the track rather than build a new bridge. This track I feel is not running a course which highlights the beauty of the area like the rest of the Fernleigh track does. I hope the council will consider local's feelings about the position of the track and try to compromise so everyone is happy.
  • casbridge about 2 months ago
    The proposed yellow path not only infringes on the privacy of the residents by running alongside their back fences but is also not attractive to the users of the new path. A much more logical and more scenic (and less Intrusive for the residents) option is to opt for the red path which diverges left off the existing track just prior to Belmont Station and follows the Hunter Water dirt access road past the lagoon, continuing on and turning left down Beach Street. That route is much more scenic and user friendly. I am sure an agreement could be reached with Hunter Water in the interests of the local and wider community.
  • michaelg.mg145 2 months ago
    A concern is the proximity to Highway traffic where the track goes beside the Pacific Highway. If possible the track should be moved into the Bush land adjoining, along the easement for power lines.
  • michaelg.mg145 2 months ago
    It is not clear from the diagram, however where the track goes beside urban areas the track should not abut existing fences or boundaries but be set back where practicable to enhance the user experience and maintain the natural outlook for residents.
  • WNPM 3 months ago
    When is a decision on the route between Green St and Pacific Hwy expected? Its impossible for potentially effected residents in this area to comment / raise concerns until a proposal is put forward. Can Council guarantee there will be adequate consultation with effected residence when a proposed route is drafted and a final decision reached?
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    • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
      Hi WNPM, we don't have a specific timeline for providing a draft route for this section of the track, as discussions with Belmont Golf Club are ongoing. We will provide that information as soon as possible, and will inform the local community and seek feedback thereafter. Cheers, Neil.
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      • Lindsay 3 months ago
        Thanks Neil not sure if you got my follow up reply but it was about the difficulty of the golf club having the position to dictate the route of the extension. I’m sure it would be worth adding to the discussion of a possible fenced track on their northern and eastern boundary the money saved and greater appeal of the track in avoiding the highway entrance to the club and the electric sub station could sweeten councils offer to acquire this small section as well as the extra business the track and a coffee stop would add to their business. Seems worth a discussion. Regards lindsay
  • Lindsay 3 months ago
    This will be a great asset and draw card for Lake Macquarie especially if it can include views of our beautiful beachfront obviously the golf club issue is tricky the track traversing their highway entrance and near fairways etc however the opportunity for the club also exists for a well used coffee/snack meeting facility on the route which would benefit all.Is it possible to skirt the boundaries to include a run along the beach before going through the bush area to Awakabel road and the link up If doable this would be a beautiful link and the best on the whole track
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    • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
      Hi Lindsay, Thanks for your comment. The current proposed route runs from the area near Belmont Golf Club onto the Pacific Highway, and south to Awabakal Ave. It's important to note that Council does not own the beachfront land in the area where you suggest the track should go. Cheers, Neil
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (4 March Beach St drop-in) Winsome - Wallum frogs and birds in land opp - please protect them.
  • Finbarr 3 months ago
    What will the surface of the FAST be built from? As a recumbent trike rider I am concerned that boardwalk type construction is unsuitable for riding on - the surface is far too bumpy . The boardwalk section near Belmont TAFE and the 6m section at the 9km mark is very uncomfortable.
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    • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
      Hi Finbarr, the surface along most of the FAST will be concrete. The surface of the boardwalk section is yet to be determined. Council used a concrete plank system (Permatrak - now called Kangatrak) for the Belmont boardwalk due to its fire resistance and low maintenance requirements, among other reasons. In other areas we have used fibre reinforced plastic (FRP) grating. We are investigating a number of materials, including other reinforced recycled plastic planks that are now on the market. Providing a safe, smooth riding/walking surface is one of the major factors that will contribute to a final decision.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (4 March Beach St drop-in) Teresa - Not near the back of the house; privacy concerns; don't want to attract drug addicts.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (4 March Beach St drop-in) Liz - Really happy about the track but concerned about our back access to garage. We had it approved through council DA but will now be impacted with the track.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Riek - Too noisy at the back of our houses.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Noeline - Not near the houses.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Julian - Not near the houses.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Elizabeth - Cemetery parking provisions.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Chris and Neil - Capri Cl is not to RMS standards and is very dangerous.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Nev - Too close to homes/street.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Matt - Lose lagoon view - track. Too close - cars parking in street.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Jason - Too close to homes - noise.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Letizia - Safety/noise/theft. Too close to house.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Gary - Safety/noise/theft
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Stan - Too close to my house!
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Therese and five other Gateway residents - Not enough parking for village.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Christine - Fence too close to village. Security.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Cheryl - Bought to have a boat and van so fix it.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Julian - See my letter of objection. It must be located close to lagoon.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Sam - Would like it to skirt the lake.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Tania - Too close to houses.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Rebecca - Too close to homes. Needs to be further out!
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Kylie - Traffic; too close to homes.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Lee and Brian - We would like the single lane bridge to be built as promised in 1979 across the creek. We don't want the track too close to our homes. Prefer further out in the lagoon.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Simon - Security of the area. Traffic congestion and parking. Entry and exit of Capri Cl. Monitoring and maintenance of the area. Environmental impact on the lagoon.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) LJ - Too close to homes in Belmont.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Janelle - At the start of Capri Cl there is a 90% bend single car access only, a blind corner you cannot see around and no safe footpath for pedestrians. What will council do to stop motorcycles on the track at 2am etc? There are no toilets or few garbages on the track. Need traffic lights on Pacific Highway connection of Capri Cl as more cars, more congestion and risk. If cars are parked legally on both sides of streets, garbage trucks will struggle to get through and cars will park in front of garbage bins and will not get collected.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Judy - Too close to houses.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Kim - Parking will be impossible, don't put it so close to the houses.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Stephen - Bad Idea.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) D - Track is good but proposal is bad, needs better location.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Kurt - Timeline; scope; EI assessment; plans; social impact assessment.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Robin - Too close to houses. Relocate next to lagoon edge. Increasing burglary.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) - Cara - Street access; congestion from cars; Capri Cl traffic increase and dangerous right-hand bend; no footpath; residents in the area (elderly, disabilities); Young kids riding in the area at risk due to increase in traffic.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop in) Michael - Crime Highway
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (4 March Beach st drop-in) Maree - Concerned about the noise of bikes and motorbikes. Concerned about the visual because I am used to looking out at the oval. Want access to oval to walk the dogs
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (4 March Beach st drop-in) Danielle - No privacy for house backing onto the oval. Worried about theft and being able to access house from track. Would prefer it running on the opposite side of the oval and not as close to our house
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Michelle - Entry points? Toilets? Parking? Crime etc. Lots of issues for further discussion.
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (3 March Brandt St drop-in) Richard - Entry/exit points
  • Admin Commented Lake Mac 3 months ago
    (4 March Beach St drop-in) Peter - To close to my property on McEwan St.
  • RobynMclachlan 3 months ago
    Why does the proposed track go along everyone's back yard, this is just assisting house break-ins and providing a quick getaway along the track. Why isnt the track along proposed along the back of the sand dunes where walkers etc can enjoy the natural area. Where are push bike riders expected to park their cars when getting on and off the proposed track. Noted the proposed track goes out onto the highway towards the Blacksmiths end. Why isnt council making this proposed track and elevated walk way across the wetland so nature lovers can observe the birdlife etc around the lagoon - this would e a tourist attraction if constructed with some foresight
  • Admin Commented kmarples 3 months ago
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  • Michaela 3 months ago
    I need council to take into consideration the elderly and how they interact with the speeding cyclists. RMS road rules state: DIVISION 2 – Road RULES Bicycle riders on footpaths and shared paths must give way to persons travelling in or on wheeled recreational devices or toys, as well as other pedestrians—see rule 250(2). Rule 250, (2) The rider of a bicycle riding on a footpath or shared path must— (a) keep to the left of the footpath or shared path unless it is impracticable to do so, and (b) give way to any pedestrian on the footpath or shared path. Maximum penalty—20 penalty units. Note 2. For subrule (2), give way means the rider must slow down and, if necessary, stop to avoid a collision—see the definition in the Dictionary. The RMS website also states in bicycle rules that Bicycle riders should provide pedestrians with a metre of space on shared path. It is my experience riders along the Fernleigh Shared Track don't head the rules for shared pathways and tend to travel as fast as possible along the track. In the past this means myself and my wife cannot walk as a couple along the DIVISION 2 – Road RULES Bicycle riders on footpaths and shared paths must give way to persons travelling in or on wheeled recreational devices or toys, as well as other pedestrians—see rule 250(2). Rule 250, (2) The rider of a bicycle riding on a footpath or shared path must— (a) keep to the left of the footpath or shared path unless it is impracticable to do so, and (b) give way to any pedestrian on the footpath or shared path. Maximum penalty—20 penalty units. Note 2. For subrule (2), give way means the rider must slow down and, if necessary, stop to avoid a collision—see the definition in the Dictionary. The RMS website also states in bicycle rules that Bicycle riders should provide pedestrians with a metre of space on shared path. In the past this means myself and my wife cannot walk as a couple along the track as bike riders tend to brush my shoulder as they roar past and yell abusive language at us.
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    • Michaela 3 months ago
      Opps! sorry about the double up, but you get the message.
  • Michaela 3 months ago
    Another concern is dog walkers who have their dogs on leads of 3m - 5m long . these dogs tend to get their leads around our legs and could and have instigated me losing my footing, so far I have not sustained any serious injury but no doubt this will not always be the case. Dogs on leads should have a lead no longer than 300mm, this way the dogs will not trip me over or get in the way of cyclists. Dogs off leads should be impounded.
  • johnjanellecapri 3 months ago
    Does anyone from council actually read & respond to the comments ?????
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    • Admin Commented Luke Farr 3 months ago
      Hi there, we definitely read all of these comments and respond where a question has been posted. Following the conclusion of the consultation the project team will review all feedback received. Regards, Luke
  • greg.rose 3 months ago
    The transition around the golf club - ideally running along the East side of the golf club would be significantly better both for scenery and safety. More costly of course, with more pavement and fencing required to avoid being target practice for wayward golfers and it no doubt, would impinge on the golfers, who have every right to expect no impact on their configuration of their course.
  • johnjanellecapri 3 months ago
    My concern is. Will there be carparks with access points at the end of Andra & Brandt Close. Our Street Capri Close is the access road to these streets. The entry & exit from Capri Close to the busy highway is very dangerous and also part of the road is single lane, two cars cannot pass on a blind 90 degree bend when you first drive into Capri Close. With more cars in the street will only create higher risks of an accident. We also have almost no pedestrian footpath around this corner. With more cars something will need to be done for pedestrian & car safety.