Creating a place for people in Toronto

Thank you to everyone who contributed to the 'Creating a place for people in Toronto' consultation. The engagement summary has now been released.

The first phase of this project was designed for the community to provide ideas and suggestions on how to make the foreshore area of Toronto a better place for people to enjoy, as well as exploring the opportunities for how the foreshore integrates with the proposed mixed-use development on Council-owned land at 4 Bath Street and 1B Victory Row.

Council undertook a multi-faceted engagement strategy for this project to inform and consult with residents, workers, businesses and visitors to ensure they had the opportunities to provide feedback.

Council would also like to acknowledge the tabling of a petition, from the Toronto Foreshore Protection Group, at the Council meeting on 29 October. This petition is not referenced in the engagement summary, as it was received after this phase of the consultation had closed.

Thank you to everyone who contributed to the 'Creating a place for people in Toronto' consultation. The engagement summary has now been released.

The first phase of this project was designed for the community to provide ideas and suggestions on how to make the foreshore area of Toronto a better place for people to enjoy, as well as exploring the opportunities for how the foreshore integrates with the proposed mixed-use development on Council-owned land at 4 Bath Street and 1B Victory Row.

Council undertook a multi-faceted engagement strategy for this project to inform and consult with residents, workers, businesses and visitors to ensure they had the opportunities to provide feedback.

Council would also like to acknowledge the tabling of a petition, from the Toronto Foreshore Protection Group, at the Council meeting on 29 October. This petition is not referenced in the engagement summary, as it was received after this phase of the consultation had closed.

Do you have a question about either the proposed development or the foreshore master plan? Please refer to our FAQs on the right hand side of this page.

If you still have a question, ask us here.

Any general project questions and comments will be responded to publicly.



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  • There was a Petition tabled at a Council Meeting not long back opposing this development. What if any heed or consideration has been given to it

    Paul Steele asked 3 months ago

    Hi Paul,

    Thanks for your question. The petition tabled by the Toronto Foreshore Protection Group at the 29 October 2018 Council meeting has been acknowledged and will be provided to the head design consultant along with the community engagement report once appointed.

    Regards,

    Luke

  • In the Lakes Mail (27 August) Council’s property manager Kate Cramp said the Bath Street site had been included “in the consultation process” and was on the Shape Lake Mac website. “People have been tagging comments to the Bath Street site,” Ms Cramp said. Yes, people have been tagging comments because the cursor allowed this to happen. However, please clear up for all us any confusion here. Will Council really take any notice of the actual comments (not the likes and dislikes of course, which can be pretty meaningless) because in Council's constant messages to us (as you know), there is only one option for this site - i.e. a residential/tourist/commercial development complex? Is including Bath Street 'in the consultation process' just a show? Is it really consultation? Is there only one consultant to be appointed for the Bath Street site and the FMP? Or, have we seen a change of heart and now Council is including the Bath Street in the FMP? If you can advise soonest that would be great.

    nico asked 8 months ago

    Hi Nico,

    Councillors resolved in April to proceed with the preparation of a development application for a mixed-use commercial development on the site of 4 Bath Street and 1B Victory Row. Initial planning is under way and the community will have an opportunity to comment as the project progresses.

    Currently, Council is undertaking community consultation on the Toronto Foreshore Master Plan, covering an area from Goffet Park to Bath Street. This precinct incorporates the site of the proposed development, including an open-space area along the waterfront, and Council is inviting feedback on how the development integrates with the foreshore.

    The feedback provided through this consultation will inform the design brief for both the Foreshore Master Plan and the proposed development.  At this stage, Council intends to engage a single consultant for both but this will ultimately be determined through a tender process.

    All feedback received from the current round of consultation will be considered as part of overall planning for the foreshore.

    Regards,

    The project team


  • Hi, How can people convey words of support to Council for this proposal? I see flyers around town with ways people can oppose it but I believe there are many people in support who would like their voices heard. I live in and Toronto and support Councils efforts to enhance the foreshore. I see no logical reason why the proposal is bad for the area. I am seeing efforts in the community by people opposed to this and I wanted to make some effort to send some positive support to Council as I believe this proposal will enhance both physical appeal of area but also the visitor economy in Toronto. Also the increased facilities will be a bonus to the community. The area where it is proposed for the building is not used by people. It is a dingy little piece of parkland that no one uses. The area between the proposed development and the existing foreshore facilities would benefit from development as currently a number of shady characters hang out there regularly drinking which gives it a feeling of danger. By developing and enhancing this area it will become safer and less likely to have people like this loitering around. I believe many of the people against this have not actually read the proposal nor do they understand exactly what is planned. They are just going along with the negative efforts of a minority. I strangely support Councils efforts here and understand the rationale behind it. Good luck with your plans and hopefully more people come out in support of this. Regards Will

    Will S asked 8 months ago

    Hi Will,

    Thank you for your feedback. Providing comment through this Shape Lake Mac portal, writing letters or emails, or attending a community consultation session are great ways to have your voice heard.

    Some people also contribute views and suggestions through social media platforms such as Council's Facebook page. We are interested in hearing a range of ideas and opinions from the community.

    Your comments on the future use of the Foreshore will be considered as part of our overall planning.

    Regards

    The project team

  • So where is the traffic going to access/egresss the development site? The Bay Street signalised intersection nr McDonalds with Cary Street (owned/managed by RMS) currently struggles and is a choke point during both the AM & PM peak times (particularly the northbound right turn phase), even though it was recently reconstructed. Cary Street is also the primary diversion utilised by the Traffic Management Centre when there is a closure of the M1 Mtwy. Where is the extra traffic generated going to go without further impacting on traffic flows around Toronto?

    Trent L asked 8 months ago

    Hi Trent,

    The final layout for the proposed development site is yet to be determined, however the likely vehicle access will be from Bath Street.

    A comprehensive traffic study will be undertaken as part of the Development Application process that will assess impacts on nearby roads and make appropriate recommendations.

    Thanks,

    The Project Team




  • Why have councils tidal and inundation flood maps not overlaid or even mentioned in this proposed foreshore development Council has predicted a sudden (J curve) increase in lake levels .

    Haddon asked 8 months ago

    Hi Haddon,

    Thank you for your question. Both the Toronto Foreshore Master Plan and the mixed-use development proposed for Bath Street are at an early stage of concept development. The mixed-use development design will account for flood planning and future sea level rise in accordance with the Lake Macquarie Waterway Flood Risk Management Study and Plan.

    The project team

  • WHY SPEND RATE PAYERS MONIES on This ,When there is a LOT of Needs more important to the RAT PAYERS. PARKING in Toronto / Need of public Toilets Seniors can find / Better Local roads Western side LakeMac / Excersize Equip- Skate Park . Monies need spending On Rathmines Base and Scoccer Ground roads seating , and Meany Meany more.

    bruce asked 8 months ago

    Hi Bruce,

    Improvement of the Toronto Foreshore was identified as a priority in the Toronto Development Contributions Plan, which was adopted by Council in November 2016. This plan determines how contributions received from developments in the area will be used to improve community facilities.

    Council has allocated $9 million from this funding pool to improve the Toronto Foreshore and is seeking ideas from the community on what facilities should be provided in this recreational precinct. This could include some of the facilities you have mentioned, including upgraded amenities blocks, more seating, exercise equipment or a skate park.

    The project team

  • Why is the council fixated on building high apartment blocks close to the foreshore rather than providing beautiful outdoor spaces for us to enjoy or cafes and restaurants for residents and tourists to dine in? Surely, if there was a requirement for extra accommodation in the area (and I'm not convinced that there is!), then apartments could be built further back in less contentious areas which still have the option to provide a lake view.

    MartinG asked 8 months ago

    Hi Martin,

    Thank you for your feedback regarding the future use of the Toronto Foreshore. As part of the initial community consultation, the community are invited to provide suggestions for the sorts of recreational facilities they would like to see on the Foreshore, including cafes and restaurants. The proposed development will provide commercial space at street level suitable for these activities but other locations may also be deemed suitable.

    Council wants to make the Toronto Foreshore a more inviting place for people by improving access and amenities and creating enticing destination points along the waterfront precinct from Goffet Park to Bath Street.

    The proposed Bath Street development is consistent with planning principles outlined in Council strategies and the City Values: it will contribute to economic diversification, broaden our tourism offering, increase housing choice and enhance the vibrancy and character of the town centre.

    The project team

  • What are your plans for the railway station building & line, they are a part of Toronto's history and should not be lost. As for the two houses they could be turned (replaced if need be but with something sympathetic to the area into a cafe and picnic area.

    Bogart asked 8 months ago

    Hi Bogart,

    Thank you for your  question and feedback. The rail corridor is owned by Railcorp but currently leased to Council.

    We invite feedback from the community on the best uses of this site as part of our overall planning for the foreshore.

    Regards,

    The project team


  • Can you please put a note above the map to indicated what the 'like' and 'dislike' functions are supposed to indicate. I just wonder in some cases whether people who click on 'dislike' are actually disliking the comment itself or whether they dislike the very thing (s) that the write also dislikes. Please make it very clear so that people are not confused. Thank you.

    nico asked 8 months ago

    Hi Nico,

    Thanks for your enquiry. The 'Like' and 'Dislike' buttons function in the same way they are used on most social media platforms. People can like or dislike a comment.

    Thanks,

    The project team

  • What is the status of the two houses on Victory Row (shown as number 5 and 9 on the above map)? I walk around this area and do not like using the walkway past the houses, because it feels like I am walking in their front yard. Do these houses require vehicle access?

    Margie asked 8 months ago

    Thank you for your question and feedback. The two houses are owned by Council and currently occupied by tenants. Both sites are within the Toronto Foreshore Master Plan area and their future use will be determined through community consultation.

    Thanks

    The project team